Cberlet reverted to delete the following passage : "'. . . claims that certain photos of barred spiral galaxies and of Lawrence Livermore Laboratory plasmoid experiments which appeared in LaRouche's " New Solidarity " newspaper and " Fusion " magazine, are " reminiscent of the swastika " and of the Nazi " theory of spiraling expansion / conquest . " . "'
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The simplistic analogies to plasma and electrical discharge phenomena that are invoked to support the model [ as in Talbott & Thornhill's Thunderbolts of the Gods ( 2002 ) ] cannot nullify the verdict of the overwhelming negative evidence and serve only as an example of invincible ignorance, showing the proponents do not know, for example, the difference between a plasmoid and a pair of opposed lotus blossoms used by the Greeks to represent the thunderbolt held by Zeus.
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If contaminated by metal salts, the plasmoid puts out very bright light of characteristic color . ( ANd another trick is to prop up the carbon " lead " from a mechanical pencil, and watch it launch huge blasts of plasma . ) These plasmoids are basically the same as " Saint Elmo's Fire, " but since they couple capacitively / inductively to the high frequency AC source, they can persist even when not attached to any conductor .-- talk ) 23 : 20, 2 January 2008 ( UTC)
